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My internet connection is still a bit troublesome. It can take several retries before a successful connection and even when the connection is established, things seem slow - as if there are a lot of fail+resends going on.

I got a similar interrupted sensation out of reading Iron Sunrise by Charles Stross. The first 100 pages or so went very well, but after that reading went into a stop-start mode. I just found this book too easy to put down and not that easy to pick up again. It wasn't actively or obviously bad, just lacking in sufficient engagement for me. Now this book has god a lot of very good reviews, so it does make me wonder where the point of difference is between me and those reviewers. I think the answer lies in characterisation. This book is very strong in the areas of universe building and plot. These are well done with the universe being notably quite distinct. On the other hand, I cannot escape the feeling that the characters are just there to serve the plot and not as aspects of development in their own right. I can perhaps add that there does seem to be some attempt to develop the characters, but it is pretty superficial and light weight compared to the other aspects.

Two observations come from the above piece of thought. The first is that this is almost exactly the same observation I had regarding Pushing Ice by Alastair Reynolds last week so perhaps this is a characteristic of modern space opera. The second is that this wouldn't have bothered me when I was younger. The sense of wonder from the space setting would carry me through. So where is the problem? Are authors not doing the "wonder" as well or am I just getting more critical in my curmudgeonly old age?

The answer is probably a bit of both but mostly I suspect with me. For evidence, it is worth comparing my reaction to this Stross novel compared to the Reynolds one. While they had many similarities including the same fundamental (to me) character problem, I found the Reynolds book much more engaging to read. This was because the basic story premise was distinctively not earthbound. There is no way the story could be translated to a more prosaic setting. The Stross book on the other hand could have been rewritten easily on a cruise ship in the Caribbean. That bonus for the exotic setting was very real to my engagement. So the sense of wonder is alive and well for some authors - but only a few I fear. On the other hand even with the exotic setting I was still pretty critical of the Reynolds book. I want more these days than just space ships and BDOs - I want the whole literary package. I don't think I'm being unreasonable - do you?

Date: 2006-08-12 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillpolack.livejournal.com
I don't think you're being unreasonable. I like Maxine mcArthur because she *does* the whole package, and I like Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan stuff for the same reason. I'm exploring the romance-in-space variety of space opera cautiously and it tends to push character to meet fairytale premises (another form of plot driven). I suspect all comes down to really good writers being able to juggle everything at once in fascinating patterns and with amazing success and for most of us either juggling with fewer balls, juggling with less interesting patterns or some of the balls falling to the ground in an unseemly manner.

Date: 2006-08-12 07:24 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] threemonkeys.livejournal.com
Luckily for writers the balance of components and just what is engaging or wonderful etc varies, or we would all read the same books. For some people one ball being thrown up is enough.

Date: 2006-08-12 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] russellk.livejournal.com
I tried to read Stross's Accelerando after barely making it through Singularity Sky, but gave up after 50 pages. I received the distinct impression in Accelerando that he was trying to coat the same story (technology brings the world to a singularity event) in layer after layer of glossy tech-ideas. He hurt my brain and left my heart untouched. Perhaps I need to be in a certain mood to tackle Stross.

On the other hand I really enjoyed Pushing Ice, and found Reynolds convincing me that his characters were interesting. I thought he did themes such as 'divided loyalties' and 'when friendship goes bad' quite well.

Date: 2006-08-12 10:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] threemonkeys.livejournal.com
found Reynolds convincing me that his characters were interesting. I thought he did themes such as 'divided loyalties' and 'when friendship goes bad' quite well.

I could see what he was trying there, but I didn't buy it at a visceral level. Maybe I've just never seen a friendship break down like that.

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